Patsy Hall’s Blog

“Faith is being sure of what we hope for and certain of what we do not see.” Heb 11.1.  “Without faith it is impossible to please God, because anyone who comes to Him must believe that He exists and that He rewards those who earnestly seek Him.” Heb 11.6.  Now look at Gal 5.6b:  “The only thing that counts is FAITH expressing itself through LOVE.”  Hmmmmmm.  One must have FAITH to please God but that FAITH must be thoroughly mixed with LOVE in order “to count”.

Paul was writing the Galatians who had begun to return to their old ways, trusting in religious traditions and laws.  Listen to the seriousness of this veering away from FAITH and LOVE (God Himself!)  “I am astonished that you are so quickly deserting…” Gal 1.6. “You foolish Galatians!  Who has bewitched you? … I would like to learn just one thing from you: Did you receive the Spirit by observing the Law, or by believing?  Are you so foolish? After beginning with the Spirit, are you now trying to attain your goal by human effort?  Have you suffered so much for nothing?…does God give you His Spirit and work miracles among you because you observe the Law, or because you believe…” Gal 3.1-5  “Clearly no one is justified before God by the Law.” Gal 3.11.

Some pretty strong words of rebuke, Strong reminders that we are not saved by following the religious traditions or laws …but by FAITH!  “For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision nor uncircumcision has any value.” Gal 5.6a.  Obeying religious laws or not has no impact on our salvation….it all always boils down to FAITH.  Then Paul adds this:  “The ONLY THING THAT COUNTS is FAITH expressing itself through LOVE.”  A strong admonition.  We must have FAITH to please God….yet that FAITH must express itself through LOVE.

But how?  We must “be imitators of God as dear children, and walk in LOVE as Christ also LOVED us and gave Himself for us, an offering and a sacrifice to God for a sweet-smelling aroma…being kind to one another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another even as God in Christ forgave us.” Eph 5.1-2; 4.32.

It is impossible to please God without FAITH, yet “the only thing that counts is FAITH being expressed through LOVE,” through God, His Son and His power released in us. “Look to Jesus, the originator and perfecter of our faith.” Heb 12.2.

PRAYER:  Here I am again, helpless in my humanity, facing the impossible  assignment of walking not just in FAITH, but of expressing the FAITH I have through LOVE.  I know there are no clear cut answers.  I know it is a “walk”—a  moment by moment, day by day dependence upon You, Lord.  How I need You. How I look to You, Jesus.  Guide me as I ponder Your Word and try to apply what I am learning. Above all things I want to please You, yet even in that offering of my life, I need You to accomplish it. Help me.  In Jesus’ Name, Amen.

Nearly everyone would agree that Jesus walked in LOVE. He had an intensity and depth of LOVE few humans demonstrate.  When Jesus knew His time had come to return to His Father, Jn 13.1,  “Having loved His own who were in the world, He now showed them the FULL EXTENT of His LOVE.” (NIV) “He LOVED them to the end.” (NKJV) The disciples must have wondered what that would look like.

How did Jesus show them this radical, deep, beyond-our-comprehension kind of LOVE?  Well, in Jn 13.4-5, He humbled Himself taking on the role of a servant or slave, and knelt before His followers.  He wasn’t gullible or naïve, He knew His men. They said they would never leave Him, but in fact would do just that.  They would lie, flee, deny and betray Him.  Yet He bowed before them to serve.  Jesus would demonstrate 2 Cor 4.8-10:  “We are hard pressed on every side, yet not crushed; we are perplexed, but not in despair; persecuted, but not forsaken; struck down, but not destroyed,” so that we would know how to “always carry about in our body, the dying of the Lord Jesus, that the life of Jesus would also be manifested in our body.”  This verse required Him (us) to be walking in LOVE.

“Jesus was troubled in spirit and testified, ‘I tell you the truth, one of you is going to betray me’,” Jn 13.20.  He had taught them to “LOVE their neighbors; to LOVE their enemies and pray for those who persecute them.” Mt 19.19a; 5.44.  Now Jesus served the bread and wine to Judas Iscariot just the same as all the others. 

 “I am telling you now before it happens, so that when it does happen you will believe that I am He.” Jn 13.19 and Jn 14.29; 16.4.  What a demonstration of LOVE.  He warned them ahead of time to help them overcome potential guilt, fear, regret, questions… And then He told Peter about his upcoming denial, about the coming of the Holy Spirit and about the persecution and misunderstandings that come to those who remain true to Christ.

He prayed for them, Jn 17.  He spoke truth in His trial, Jn 18.  He did not renege  on the reason He came, Jn 19.  He took care of His mother, Jn 19.  He turned to His Father in His anguish, Mk 15.  He forgave, Lk 23.  He received a thief, Lk 23.  He completed what He came to do: “It is finished!” Jn 19.30.  And it was all possible ONLY because He walked in LOVE.  How is your walk?  Yes, the standard is out of our reach, but remember, with God, all things are possible! 

PRAYER:  Oh Father, I am undone.  How can I even begin to “walk in LOVE”? But for YOU; with You, I know LOVE can develop and grow in my life. Open my heart so that Your LOVE can be rooted and grounded in my life, that I will not only be able to comprehend the width, length, depth and height of Your LOVE, but that I might even be filled with it as I continue walking with You. May the power of Your LOVE change me.  I ask for that, in Jesus’ Name, Amen.

LOVE is a word that totally describes God, but a word that has become so common we flippantly use it to describe how we feel about a car, food or a new outfit.  Yet LOVE is a synonym for God Himself.  LOVE is a word full of power–  power to cover a multitude of sins; to save; to forgive; to heal.  May God open your heart to recognize the extent of His LOVE for you, the miracle of His choice to use you as an outlet through whom His LOVE can flow to others.

LOVE is an eternal thing.  It exists outside of time, unaffected by time.  It is interminable, without beginning or end. Listen to Jesus: “Father, I desire that they also whom You gave Me may be with Me where I am, that they may behold My glory which You have given Me;  for You LOVED Me before the foundation of the world.” Jn 17.24.  LOVE was in place and functioning before Genesis 1.1. 

“Behold, I make all things new…It is done!  I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End; He who overcomes shall inherit all things and I will be his God and he shall be My son.” Rev 21.5,6.  Eternity is filled with God. Filled with  unfailing LOVE!  1 Cor 13.13:  “And now abide faith, hope, love, these three; but the greatest of these is LOVE.”  The one that moves with us into eternity is LOVE!

So, what IS this LOVE God speaks of? It is Him, and He demonstrates it in ways to which we can relate.  It originates from Him in ways to which we can respond. He demonstrated His LOVE when He sent Jesus to give us eternal life. 1 Jn 4.9.  Think of it! “God demonstrated His own LOVE toward us, in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us.” Ro 5.8.  LOVE originated with His loving us, not us loving Him. 1 Jn 4.10.  So,“we love Him because He first loved us.” 1 Jn 4.19. 

We have so watered down this word LOVE.  We’ve miss-used it, polluted it and cheapened it. Yet, “LOVE never fails.”  It endures.  There is “no shadow of turning” in it. “Nothing can separate us” from it.  What are you doing about this LOVE?  How is it expressed in your life?  How is it impacting you personally?

PRAYER:  Father, You LOVE me so much. But how do I LOVE You back?  How do I LOVE like You do?  Help me to “walk in love” like Jesus did.  I want my life to be all for You and I yield and submit to You, asking You to work in my heart and soul so Your LOVE can pour out of my life. Bring increase, Father, to knowledge and discernment in my life so that I will recognize the things that are excellent… that I might relate to everyone I meet with sincerity and Your kind of LOVE.  Change my heart to be open to You and cause me to be more teachable, more full of Your LOVE so I can truly LOVE others like You want me to.  Work in me, Father, so I can be a delight to You. I want to do things to bring pleasure to You.  Please, Father, let the power of Your LOVE flow in me and impact my world.  This week, teach me how to LOVE You more.  In Jesus’ Name, Amen.

I apologize for missing last week….but here it is!

JESUS!  His life was the epitome of SELF-CONTROL.  On the Cross—it was amazing…hanging there as a man, human–raw, torn flesh, splinters, rough handling, nails pounded in.  Never a word of rebuke, anger, bitterness.  Ridicule, slanderous words, taunts, verbal cruelty; yet not once did He lash out,  He had one response.  He forgave.  SELF-CONTROL was fully developed in Him.  

Look in Mark 8  at examples of SELF-CONTROL as Jesus dealt with people:  A crowd of over 4,000 with no food.  Disciples who had seen Jesus miraculously supply food for over 5,000 but now doubted He could feed the 4,000. Pharisees who came to argue and test Him.  And disciples still misunderstanding Him.

In Mark 5 when Jesus delivered the Gerasene Demoniac and sent the demons into a pig herd, the owners didn’t care about the man’s healing; they had lost their pigs and just wanted Jesus out of town.  He was called to pray for a little girl who  died before He arrived.  Everyone laughed as He went in to raise her to life.

In Mark 11 the hatred of the Priests and Scribes continued to increase.  They questioned His authority, they sent representatives to trap and test Him. 

In Mark 14 He asked the disciples to pray for Him.  He was “grieved to the point of death” the Bible says, yet they could not stay awake to pray for Him.

The Gospels are full of dozens and dozens of incidents that would have caused most men to retaliate, fight back, drop everything and walk away, scold, holler, pull their hair out or totally give up and quit.  But Jesus?  Not Him.  SELF-CONTROL was in the foundation of who He was.  SELF-CONTROL kept the door open for love and grace to work upon mankind.  It kept His focus on the purpose for which He came.  It kept His eye on the Father and not the circumstances.  It kept Him in Pilate’s court and on the Cross.  It kept Him in the Tomb until the work He’d come to do was complete.  And now, it is our turn.  Our turn to walk in SELF-CONTROL, something only the Spirit of God can enable us to do.  Look to “the Author and Finisher of your faith.”  Regarding SELF-CONTROL, He continues to repeat that famous sentence:  “Follow Me.”

PRAYER:  Oh God, what can I say.  Jesus.  What a Saviour.  I cannot take in what He actually did for me.  I don’t deserve it.  But it isn’t about deserving, is it.  It’s about Your love for me.  Father, if Christ is IN me, then SELF-CONTROL can function in my life.  He set the example.  Joseph walked in it and he didn’t even have Jesus as an example.  I do.  Teach me.  Change me.  Work in me so that this characteristic so strong in You can develop in me.  I am forever grateful for Your SELF-CONTROL in dealing with me, waiting on me.  Dear Lord…. Thank you, thank you, thank you.  In Jesus’ Name, Amen.

“(Joseph’s) brothers saw that their father loved him more than (them) and so they hated him and could not speak to him on friendly terms.” Gen 37.4.  Joseph told his dream;“they hated him even more.” v. 5,8.  Joseph went to check on his brothers, they saw him coming and “plotted against him to put him to death.” v.18,  but sold him into slavery instead. There is no record of Joseph striking back.  

God’s favor was upon Joseph.  He was elevated as Potiphar’s personal servant. In this position, Joseph occasionally saw Potiphar’s wife. “Lie with me,” she said to him. Gen 39.7.  “She spoke to Joseph day after day, though he did not listen to her, to lie beside her, to be with her.” v. 10.  Joseph refused and lived honorably.  “Lie with me!” v. 12.   He fled but the wife’s false accusations landed Joseph in prison again v. 19-20.  There is no record of Joseph striking back.

While in prison, Joseph interpreted dreams of two men.  When one was released Joseph said, “Only keep me in mind when it goes well with  you, and please do me a kindness by mentioning me to Pharaoh, and get me out of this prison…” Gen 40.14-15.  When released, he “did not remember Joseph, but forgot him.” v. 23.  There is no record of Joseph striking back.

In Chapter 41, Pharaoh had a dream, Joseph interpreted it and is made Ruler of Egypt next only to Pharaoh.  The predicted famine began. In Chapter 42 Israel sent his sons to Egypt for grain. Joseph is suddenly reunited with those whose hatred had resulted in years of prison and slavery.  In Chapter 45, Joseph made himself known, “I am your brother Joseph, whom you sold into Egypt.  Do not be grieved or angry with yourselves, because you sold me here; for God sent me before you to preserve life…” He continued with blessings and promises for them and their families. v. 4-15.  There is no record of Joseph striking back.

Israel dies.  The brothers went to Joseph in fear, expecting the worst since their father was dead. “’Do not be afraid; I will provide for you and your little ones.’ So he comforted them and spoke kindly to them.” Gen 50.21.  There is no record of Joseph ever striking back.

By seeing how Joseph responded to circumstances, people and God, we see Faith, Peace, Goodness, Joy, Patience, Meekness and Gentleness—and SELF-CONTROL.  Such an example!  God may not make you ruler of a nation, but He will use any of us who walks in SELF-CONTROL.  Let Him have His way with you this week.

PRAYER:  Father, Joseph doesn’t seem real. How can someone be treated like that and not strike back!  All I know to do after that is say ‘here I am, Lord.  I’m not very SELF-CONTROLLED. I don’t know how to do it.  Walk me through things that give me the chance to exercise SELF-CONTROL.  In Jesus’ Name, amen.

Every learning curve carries with it methods, ways of thinking or doing that enable us to grow in the experience.  Psalm 121 is not labeled:  “A Psalm of Self-Control,” but it does give us a method—a shift in our thinking and perspective that will enable SELF-CONTROL to develop at the core of our being. 

Scenarios requiring SELF-CONTROL are filled with overt temptations to our weaknesses or subtle options for the “easy way out.” Here we realize we need someone stronger than ourselves, to keep us on course.  That’s where Psalm 121 comes in.  It shows us how to stand as SELF-CONTROL gains strength in our life.

Picture yourself.  You know the right course.  No one will know if you “squeak” by. God will, and sometimes even more critical at the time—YOU will know.  If you give in, that door of self-condemnation, low self-esteem, self-pity—in general, disappointment with yourself, will be re-opened.  You come to the end of your rope.  You realize finally that you cannot CONTROL your SELF.  You need help.

Now for Psalm 121.  You ask yourself,“Where does my help come from?”  You may not know how it works, but you know the answer:  “My help comes from the Lord, (after all) He made heaven and earth.”  As you struggle with human desires, your thoughts get on board with the Truth:  “(God) will not allow your foot to slip; He who keeps YOU will not slumber.”  He is with you and will strengthen your soul in the circumstance. “He neither slumbers nor sleeps.”

As your mind and soul agree with these truths about God, you recognize with more assurance that “The Lord is your keeper the Lord is your shade on your right hand.”  As you believe the Word of God, pondering these verses, you begin to trust that God says these things to YOU!  Sometimes that comes as a powerful revelation….that these promises and truths are for and about YOU!

As you seek the Lord for strength and help with SELF-CONTROL, you will become more aware that “He will protect you from all evil; He will keep your soul.  The Lord will guard your going out and your coming in from this time forth and forever.”  In other words, He will develop the strength of SELF-CONTROL in you, enabling you to stand in the midst of circumstances that in the past would have left you floundering in regret, shame or feeling like you’ll just never “make it.”

PRAYER:  Father, I believe my help comes from You.  Help me to trust that You really will strengthen me and not let me slip…that You will keep me.  As You develop SELF-CONTROL within me, may my trust in You also grow so I will go in and out knowing You protect me…partly through the establishing of SELF-CONTROL in my life.  I am so weak.  I finally see the reality of the lack of SELF- CONTROL  in my life.  Thank you for being my Help.  In Jesus’ Name, amen.

“Do you not know that those who run in a race all run, but only one receives the prize?  Run in such a way (in your life) that you may win.  Everyone who competes in the games exercises SELF-CONTROL in all things.  They then do it to receive a perishable wreath, but we are imperishable.  Therefore I run in such a way, as not without aim….I buffet my body (through SELF-CONTROL) and make it my slave, lest possibly, after I have preached to others, I myself should be disqualified.:  1 Cor 9.24-27. 

Paul always “nails me”.  Most of us have run races, played sports, done something physical that required training and endurance.  We worked at it, avoided certain foods, changed our life-style during the training, got up early to meet the requirement of the day.  We sweated, ached, pulled muscles, turned down desserts.  Training took precedence over social life.  And we have had moments of walking in SELF-CONTROL—not always easy, but usually rewarding. 

Lay Paul’s “race template” over your life.  Do you recognize that the responsibility of choice is in your hand?  Applying SELF-CONTROL may be impossible to do by yourself sometimes.  You may need a “coach,” someone more experienced, to help you press through to the next level in your relationship with the Lord. 

This week, ask God to show you an area(s) to target—something needing the discipline of SELF-CONTROL in order to grow in Him.  There may be things to set aside, stop or being to do.  It may involve relationships with others, something in your attitude or a change in activities or perspectives on life.  Rom 13.14 says:  “Put on the Lord Jesus Christ, and make no provision for the flesh in regard to its lusts (longings, desires).”    It’s something we all need to do. 

When I first started running, I had to walk part of the distance, but the time came when I could run the entire route with no walking.  SELF-CONTROL played a part in that change.  Then I ran a local 5k Race.  I knew my pace, speed and ranking.  As long as I kept applying SELF-CONTROL in my daily runs, there was overall progress and improvement.  I began to “look/feel” like a “real” runner.  It is the same in our walk with God.  When we take on the responsibility of SELF-CONTROL, deciding each day to apply it, God’s Spirit will work in our lives bringing change.  We will “look/feel” more like “real” Christians.  We will “run in such a way that we will win.”

PRAYER:  Father, it’s too easy to give up on some of these things I have to deal with.  It’s hard work and I don’t know if I’ll ever change.  I get discouraged and give in so easily.  Help me with my attitude toward this voluntary choice to be like You in the nitty-gritty parts of life.  Don’t let me get lazy in my standards, but keep me cognizant of my connection with eternity.  In Jesus’ Name, Amen.

“His divine power has given us everything we need for life,” 2 Pet 1.3a, so, let us make every effort to apply what we learn from the Word.  As we do, our lives become more effective and we will be enriched in our own understanding of Him.  No matter how long we have walked with the Lord, applying His Word is always at the top of our list, and that includes being SELF-CONTROLLED.

Leadership must “make every effort to add SELF-CONTROL to their faith, goodness and knowledge, because leadership must be “above reproach as God’s stewards, not self-willed, quick-tempered, drunkards or fond of ill-gotten gain.  Rather, they must be hospitable, sensible, love what is good, just and be SELF-CONTROLLED, holding fast to the faithful Word…” Titus 1.7-9. 

Older men are to be “SELF-CONTROLLED, dignified, sensible, walking sound in their faith, love and steadfast perseverance.” Titus 2.2.

Older women are “to be reverent in their behavior, not gossips or drunkards, but are to teach what is good, encouraging the young women …” Titus 2.3-4.

Young women are called to pay attention to the encouragement they receive from the older women about loving their husbands and children; being sensible, pure and kind, honoring their husbands and being good homemakers. Titus 2.4-5.

Young men are to be sensible and an example of good deeds, well grounded in the Word, dignified and sound in their conversation as they stand as examples of ones who walk with the Lord.  Titus 2.6-8.

Children are called to obey their parents as well as honor them, Eph 6.1-2.  Yes, children need to be trained to be SELF-CONTROLLED.  Prov 22.6.

We need grace to walk in SELF-CONTROL.   Read over the passages above that apply to you; their cross-references as well, and remember God’s grace. It came not only to bring salvation to us, but to instruct us in how to walk in SELF-CONTROL  so we can live sensible, righteous and godly lives. Titus 2.11-12.  Do you “live in the Spirit”?  Then God calls you to “walk in the Spirit,” Gal 5.25, adding to your life-style, SELF-CONTROL.  None of us are exempt!

PRAYER:  Father, for some reason this seems like such a big order–laying the obvious responsibility of choice upon me.  It seems to be a most impossible thing for me to do, yet I know with You, it will be possible.  Show me the areas of my life where I need to apply SELF-CONTROL.  Then help me as I begin to set up those restraints and boundaries I have put off doing for way too long.  Thank you, Lord…. Please help me.  In Jesus’ Name, Amen.

SELF-CONTROL.  It seems so simple and self-explanatory.  The control of self.  But let’s look further; after all, this is a character trait of God, one He wants to see functioning in our lives.  Still, it sounds like something we do: control ourselves.  So, how does God work this characteristic into our lives on a day-to-day basis?

The dictionary describes SELF-CONTROL as the control of one’s own emotions, desires or actions by one’s own will.  SELF-CONTROL is often translated as TEMPERANCE in the Bible.  Its dictionary definition is the condition or quality of being moderate, temperate or self-restrained.

In Gal 5.22, SELF-CONTROL means temperance or continence, a voluntary control over oneself.  It has the sense of being masterful or strong in something; having both a fixed position in a matter coupled with the strength, power and vigor to carry it out.  It most often refers to exercising self-restraint in regard to appetite with both food and chastity issues.

Listen to this, “His divine power has given us everything we need for life and godliness through our knowledge of Him who called us by His own glory and goodness.  THROUGH THESE, He has given us His very great and precious promises, SO THAT through them, you may participate in the divine nature and escape the corruption in the world caused by evil desires.”  2 Peter 1.3-4.

In verses 5-7 Peter gives further explanation:  “For this very reason, make every effort to add to your faith goodness; and to goodness, knowledge; and to knowledge, SELF-CONTROL; and to SELF-CONTROL, perseverance; and to perseverance, godliness; and to godliness, brotherly kindness; and to brotherly kindness, love.”

And the reason for all of this?  “For IF you possess these qualities in increasing measure, (continually growing in them!) they will keep you from being ineffective and unproductive in your knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ.” v. 8.

SELF-CONTROL impacts every aspect of our lives.  As a “branch” we must remain IN the Vine, voluntarily open to God’s plans and purposes.  Only then will the strength to stand strong and steady in God develop in our character.

PRAYER:  Oh God…I need Your strength and wisdom flowing in my life for this.  Help my spirit and my will to be pliable in Your hand as You begin to work SELF- CONTROL into my life.  Too often I throw off restraint in so many areas of my life.  Help me yield and stand strong in You, submit to Your plan and choose NOT to go my own way in circumstances that come.  All I want is to be more complete in You.  Help me, I can’t do this on my own.  In Jesus’ Name, Amen.

Paul wrote this charge to Timothy, “I solemnly charge you in the presence of God and of Christ Jesus . . . Preach the word; be ready in season and out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort, with great PATIENCE and instruction.” 2 Tim 4.1-2.  As Paul mentored Timothy, he emphasized the development of a God-like character.  He told Timothy how in his own life“he had found mercy, in order that in him, Jesus Christ might demonstrate His perfect PATIENCE, as an example for those who would believe in Him for eternal life.” 1 Tim 1.16.  That includes us!

Paul wanted Timothy to be a worthy example of how believers should live and interact “. . .in speech, conduct, love, faith and purity, show yourself an example of those who believe.” 1Tim 4.12.  Paul trained Timothy (and now us) to speak, interact and relate with PATIENCE.  He mentored Timothy face to face and in personal letters.  He mentors us over time by those same letters, and we are responsible to pay attention to them just as Timothy was. 

Throughout the Epistles reference is made to the importance of PATIENCE.  “And so, as those who have been chosen of God, holy and beloved, put on a heart of compassion, kindness, humility, gentleness and PATIENCE; bearing with one another, and forgiving each other . . . just as the Lord forgave you, so also should you.  And beyond all these things put on love, which is the perfect bond of unity.  Let the peace of Christ rule in your hearts . . .” Col 3.12-15a. 

The ultimate example, of course, is Jesus.  The Cross demonstrated many things:  love, compassion, warfare, victory, forgiveness, Life, power, truth, righteousness, hope, faith, grace, mercy . . . the list is endless.  This week, think about the PATIENCE  that was demonstrated. Think about the physical, mental, emotional and spiritual anguish Jesus endured.  Yet He never lost PATIENCE.  He endured and suffered long without complaint. He let God’s plan play out to the end.  He didn’t need the suffering.  He could have exercised His power and left the Cross and each of us to the destruction we all deserved.  But no, He endured.  He PATIENTLY endured, one moment at a time, bore our sin and never once lost His PATIENCE with us.  He did that as a human, as the Son of Man.  He set the example.  Paul followed.  Timothy followed.  What about you? “Wait for the Lord; be strong, and let your heart take courage; yes, wait for the Lord.” Ps 27.14.

PRAYER:  Oh Father, forgive me for falling short and not letting PATIENCE have its perfect way in my life.  I am so grateful for Your PATIENCE toward me, even before I knew You.  Where are the words to express my heart when I think of Your unending PATIENCE with me.  You never gave up on me, did You?  How can You be so amazing!  But You are.  I commit my life once again to Your hand.  Father, do what You need to do in me so PATIENCE develops and I can be more like you, more available for You to use.  Thank you, Lord.  In Jesus’ Name, Amen.